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Title: Experiments in Physical Chemistry
ISBN: 0072828420
Author:
Carl Garland
Joseph Nibler
David Shoemaker
Publicate Date: 2008-02-14
Publish: 2008-02-14
List Price: $61.00
Average Customer Rating: 3.5
Format: Hardcover
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Amazon Lowest New Price: $61.00
Amazon Lowest Used Price: $64.94
Amazon Merchant Price: $71.80
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1: Questionable Textbook
I bought this item from A1Books. I searched around for the "Experiments in Physical Chemistry" book by Shoemaker/Garland/Nibler that I needed for my chemistry class at college that started October 24th. I ordered it on the 24th, because it said it would be mailed within 2 days. It wasn't mailed until the monday after I ordered it (6 days), but I recieved it that Thursday (9 days after I ordered). I was a little bit dissappointed by the slow transaction.
My main complaint is that instead of recieving what I was looking for, which was the 7th edition "Experiments in Physical Chemistry," I recieved "Customized Experiments in Physical Chemistry, 6th edition: For Rutgers State University of New Jersey, New Brunswick Campus." As I do not attend this school, and NOWHERE ON ANYTHING DID IT EVER SAY that it was 6th edition, or customized, or for any school. There were about 4 items in amazon with the same label, so I went with the cheapest one. They were all described EXACTLY THE SAME (word for word copy/paste), and I recieved a book that is different from the rest of the books that amazon was selling with the same name/description. Be wary of A1books, because there is no way to return books for a refund (all sales are final), and they don't seem interested in hearing from you (they send spam to the e-mail you give them, and say that replies to the sender will not go through).
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2: A good PChem Lab Text
I felt the book did a great job explaining the labs from the perspective of the applications to the PChem theory learned in other classes.
This book lacks good explanations of theory, so hold onto your pchem text if you need this book for a class!!!
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3: S-G-N...AN INSTRUCTOR'S PERSPECTIVE
(...)IN ORDER FOR MY CHEMISTRY, PHYSICS AND CHEMICAL ENGINEERS TO MAKE USE OF THIS TEXT SOME BASIC PRINCIPLES NEED TO BE REVIEWED (OR IF THE STUDENT HASN'T HAD P-CHEM LECTURE THEY WILL ALSO NEED A GOOD LECTURE TEXT).AS AN EXAMPLE LET'S TAKE SPECTROSCOPY AS A TOPIC...STUDENTS COME INTO MY COURSE LARGELY QUITE CONFUSED ABOUT HOW ALL THE PARTS IN THIS BROAD, BUT VITAL AREA FIT TOGETHER. OUR STUDENTS TAKE THIS COURSE AS JUNIORS AND LESS OFTEN AS SENIORS (ENGINEEERS ARE MORE LIKELY TO BE SENIORS) AND MOST WILL NOT HAVE HAD DIFFERENTIAL EQUATIONS. WHAT S-G-N REALLY LACKS ARE SIMPLE CLEAR EXPLANATIONS OF BASIC PRINCIPLES OF SPECTROSCOPY (OR KINETICS ETC.)INCLUDED IN THE TEXT. NOT ALL THE DETAILS, BUT THE BIG PICTURE E.G. RAMAN SPECTROSCOPY... THIS IS THE FIRST MULTI-PHOTON EXPERIMENT MOST UNDERGRADS HAVE HAD AND, SADLY, THE LECTURE TEXTS OFTEN DO A POOR JOB (HERE I AM NOT COUNTING THE NUMEROUS CONCEPTUAL ERRORS THAT HAVE CREPT INTO SOME OF OUR LARGEST SELLING TEXTS) GIVING A SIMPLE EXPLANATION. TWO PHOTONS STRIKE A MOLECULE (SAY THEY ARE GREEN) AND A BLUE ONE AND A YELLOW ONE ARE EMITTED IN SUCH A WAY THAT ENERGY IS CONSERVED. IF POSSIBLE EACH EXPERIMENT NEED THIS. P-CHEM LAB TEXTS GENERALLY DON'T GIVE A SIMPLE PICTURE OF THE CONCEPT (WHAT IT IS AND WHY ARE WE DOING THIS EXPERIMENT, HOW ARE WE GOING TO DO IT) IN SIMPLE BROAD TERMS FIRST BEFORE WE GET TO THE DETAILS. S-G-N, AS WELL AS OTHER P-CHEM LAB TEXTS NEED THAT.
YES, THERE ARE REFERENCES, BUT IT IS WISHFUL THINKING THAT STUDENTS WILL GO TO THEM WITH THE FOUR OTHER ADVANCED UNDERGRAD COURSES THAT THEY ARE TAKING. IT STILL IS THE BEST AROUND, BUT AS AN UNDERGRAD REVIEW NOTED HANDOUTS ARE OFTEN CRITICAL BECAUSE OF THESE KINDS OF PROBLEMS. I LECTURE FOR HALF THE SEMESTER TO OVERCOME THESE AND OTHE PROBLEMS; SHOULD THAT HAVE TO HAPPEN?
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4: Comprehensive P-Chem Lab Text
One of the most comprehensive physical chemistry lab text, SGN discusses about calculations and presentation of data, uncertainties in data and results, background and theory for each experiment. Experimentals are extremely clear and detailed, though individual instructors might develop modifications. The uncertainties section might be supplemented by John Taylor's "Introduction to Error Analysis" for more in-depth reference.Experiments are groups into topics like Gases, Transport Properties of Gases, Solutions, Electrochemistry, Kinetics, and Spectroscopy, etc. The text also devotes incredible amount of pages on electronic devices, vacuum techniques, instruments and lab procedures for reference. Many lab texts are published, yet SGN might be the best for students.
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5: OSU Integrated Lab Students, Hear Ye!
Students were asked to purchase this textbook, and most students in the class agreed that it was more or less a waste. In six terms of lab, we did no more than three experiments out of the thirty or so in the book. The discussion is often at such
a high level that the 'trees in the forest' are hidden
by the surrounding fog. If you're taking the 300 or 400-series
lab courses at OSU, just stick with what's in the
handouts...that's what I did, and I got A's on about 90%
of the reports. Even if the profs tell you to read S-G-N,
don't waste too much time on it. As a research or reference book, S-G-N is fine and probably very useful (today I'm
an industry chemist, not a researcher). But if you're
an undergrad student taking labs at OSU or any school,
put S-G-N back on the shelf for a rainy day or
return it and get a refund.
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